Finding Billy Edelin
In the fall of 2008 I was a
year out of college and somewhat unemployed. After eight months of wrenching from producers and relying on luke warm Ramen Noodles, I quit my low-paying job as a copywriter for Boston's NBC affiliate.
During this awkward phase, I was determined not to completely separate myself from a media related gig or hobby. I wanted to keep writing; maybe not as a job but as fulfillment in something challenging.
So naturally, I created a blog named after a forgotten college basketball player whose name resonates with only a few pockets of fans.
Searching for Billy Edelin was launched as a purely extracurricular thing between myself and childhood friend Matt Parsons. Matt wanted something to do when he got home from work, and I just wanted something to do. For years we had been curious as to what happened to Billy, and why nobody - not even the many Syracuse fans and alum we crossed paths with at various points in our life - hadn't a clue. In November of 2008 SFBE was launched, and boy does it come off as amateur hour when you look back on it.
But just six months in to getting our feet wet with the whole blogging ritual, we were fortunate to be invited to join SB Nation, somewhat validating to our friends that this was to be taken somewhat seriously. The off-the-wall name, at this point, could not be hidden, and we had to roll with the unconventional title.
Matt stepped aside when season one concluded, and I continued to slowly build brand awareness by cutting my teeth and troll throughout college basketball circles. Never was SFBE created with the intention to connect with Billy or garner site traffic for no other reason than its name, but this summer the ongoing joke that someday Billy or his family would reach out to me out of pure curiosity actually happened.
On June 22nd of this summer William Edelin Sr. emailed me, and he cut straight to the point:
Mr. Fasulo, my name is William Edelin and I am Billy Edelin's father. I saw your site on SB Nation.
If you want to get the deal on Billy, I can help make that happen.
William...
I've received probably a half dozen emails from people claiming to know the whole story of Billy. Some said they were Billy's old roommate, Billy's friend's cousin, or cut Billy's hair once back in 1997. I never put a lot of stock into their claims, but this was different. It was clear to me that this was Billy Edelin's father, and William and I spent the next two months talking on the phone every week, discussing everything from the mis-understanding of his son to the seedy AAU circuit, to even Michael Beasley.
William said that he had been familiar with the blog for quite sometime (he's now an avid reader), but never felt the need to reach out to me. A friend of his was adamant that he sue me for using his son's name, but William correctly assumed that I was not sitting on stacks of money, so there would be little financial gain resulting from such a petty lawsuit.
Throughout our phone calls, the thought of Billy's work with youth basketball players in the Syracuse area straight from the man who raised him seemed genuine. A can't miss opportunity to meet and interview the former Syracuse guard.
After building trust and a level of friendship with his father, Billy first reached out to me in early September. We spoke for about 25 minutes, and the plan was hatched to take a trip to upstate New York to conduct only the second interview Billy has ever done since he left the Orange basketball team in 2005. Despite second guessing myself during the entire solitary 4.5 hour drive up to Syracuse about pursuing meeting Billy, the encounter actually went down.

I met Billy for the first time at the Community Center in Manlius,New York. It's a place we've all spent a Sunday afternoon while growing up. It's a dated, nondescript, multi-purpose building; eons away from big time college basketball. But this would be the setting where this weird connection between random blogger and national championship winning guard would finally come to a head.
Driving over to the center from my two-star hotel located in an East Syracuse, New York business park, it felt fairly normal that I was about to go meet Billy, even though from an outsiders perspective it has to rank as one of the more improbable interactions between two people.
Naturally, I arrived early. Sitting alone in that worn, ungulated gravel parking lot sent chills down my spine. Tom Petty was right, waiting is the hardest part.
What if I was in the wrong place?
What if I had the wrong time?
What if Billy just doesn't show up?
I frieken drove 300 plus miles to spend an afternoon with this guy, and it may simply not happen.
After about 15 minutes of checking my fantasy football score before the early games had even kicked off, and checking each of the community center's doors to see if one may be unlocked, around the corner came a red Ford Explorer. I looked into my rear view mirror and was immediately relieved.
My interviewee was riding shotgun.

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It's been more than six years since Billy Edelin, 28-years old and originally from Silver Spring, Maryland, inauspiciously left the Syracuse basketball team and quickly fell off the radar of fans. What he's been up to since then was really left to the imagination, as he's been almost entirely mute.
To date, only myself and ESPN Radio's Mike Bristol [click if you'd like a few answers from Billy on what happened between his arrival on the Syracuse campus and 2005 departure] have had the privilege of catching up with Billy and then broadcasting that meet to the masses. Mike's interview delves more into allowing Billy to explain why he gets a bad rap, and why he missed all that time on the court. For me, I wanted to know how he's dispelling the myths surrounding him and getting on with his life.
"Two years ago, if you asked to meet Billy, he would have said no," said William Edelin Sr. the man who helped facilitate the meet and greet. "He has a hard time trusting people."
And why wouldn't you? When you experience a less than fulfilling college career - rife with bizarre allegations, no comments and no shows - on the heels of a successful prep career, it's easy to not want to prove yourself to everyone that has preconceived notions of the type of person you are. You just ignore it and continue holding strong relationships with your closest friends and family members.
Whatever you thought of Billy up to this point, it's time for a makeover. If you thought nothing of him, well, this makes it much easier. In short, he's a phenomenal guy who really just loves basketball, and loves teaching basketball. Outside of his day job working at the Onondaga County Clerks office, Billy spends almost all of his freetime conducting individual and group skill clinics and coaching local basketball leagues to ensure every kid has a chance to at least appreciate the game as much as he.
What began as word of mouth at the downtown Syracuse YMCA and YWCA has turned into a 501(c) non-profit association called the Hoops Haven Gym Ratz. In addition to Billy, Gilbert Speights heads the program that is complete with board members and boosters to help rent out local gyms and also help subsidize inclusion for underprivileged kids seeking to improve their game under the watchful eye of a former high school All-American.
"What's up, man?" Billy casually says as he gets out of the car and approaches me. "Glad you could make it."
Immediately I felt like a putz. Here is this real person, and three years ago I thought it would be funny to name a blog after him. But he, like, exists and has a life. He's nice, normal, and wouldn't hurt a fly. Man I am pathetic. The joke, if there ever was one, was up. I had to get the most awkward yet obvious question out of the way.
"So, um, when did you first hear about Searching for Billy Edelin, and what did you think about it," I stuttered while giving the ‘you don't think it's that weird, right?' look.
"Ha nah people always ask me about it, saying they were surfing on the Internet and found this website, asking if I've seen it," he said. "They act like I am supposed to get mad over it, but it didn't really bother me that much."
Doesn't care! Fantastic! I'm not even insulted. Relieved, actually.
As they enter the Community Center, Billy greets each of the paying customers and their parents with open arms and light jabs. On this particular Sunday, it's a group of eight middle school girls, many who have known Billy for more than a year. If there was any question as to how his relationship with his former coach Jim Boeheim remained over the years, it must be quite alright. One of the "students" in attendance today is Boeheim's daughter Jamie, and her twin brother Jack also goes through drills with Billy on occasion.
From the moment the girls walk in the door, they have Billy's undivided attention. Whether he's asking them about school or checking in on how their doing in their fall league, his warm personality is accepted by people half his age. The interaction is incredibly fascinating. This guy won a national championship alongside Carmelo Anthony, and here he is fully invested on the development of these girl's basketball game on a lonely Sunday afternoon.
"[With the kids] Billy is phenomenal," says Dr. Pat Lynch, whose daughter, Brittany, has been working with Billy for more than a year. "They want to play with Billy. He's outstanding with the fundamentals. The dribbling, the shooting, everything is positive. If the kids show up and he can't be here for whatever reason, they're disappointed."
When Billy came out of Oak Hill Academy in 2001 ranked as a consensus top 40 player in the country - ahead of guys like Ben Gordon, Will Bynum and Salim Stoudamire - he was one of the best ball handlers and passers in recent memory. So naturally, the first 45 minutes of today's clinic are drills for the girls solely to improve just that.
"I can shoot hoops in the driveway with my daughter, but it's not really the same as this," says Jim Harris. "We call this Billy Ball. I'll tell my daughter, ‘Hey let's go, we got Billy Ball this afternoon." And she loves it."
Beginning with some simple up and down's with your non-dominant dribbling hand, building up to plyometric dribbling and sequential spin-move-to-behind-the-back drills, Billy makes sure he spends at least 30 seconds directly with each girl, either words of encouragement or constructively telling them how to get better with the ball. His genuine interest in getting kids to at least enjoy, if not excel, in the game of basketball is unwavering.
After two hours at the Community Center, the kids
say their thank yous and goodbyes, wonder who the heck I am (trying to explain my purpose at the gym is next to impossible) and head home.
For Billy and Gil, the day is not over. More coaching awaits. We quickly pack up and dart across town to West Gennessee High School, where the pair's 7th and 8th grade fall league team waits for instruction for their late afternoon game. We arrive about 15 minutes to tip-off, but Billy diligently tries to make up for lost time by quickly assembling his eight man roster. A brief tutorial on breaking a full-court press and words of encouragement in the lay-up line, and the game has started before I can even go snag a bag of Doritos.
Once again, I sit in a once familiar place: a rented high school gym with lots of sweat, empty water bottles, and the dreaded helicopter parents. Most of the crowd is directly related to the kids playing in the game, so therefore most of the crowd thinks they're the assistant coach. Billy's team falls behind early, and barking from the sideline ensues.
One of the parents starts telling his son what to do, because obviously only he can surmount his team's early deficit. Billy has none of it, ordering the player not to talk to anyone on the sidelines or find a seat on the bench. He's the coach. He's the guy that was an assist and a rebound away from a triple-double back in 2004, and he's the guy that knows more about basketball than anyone else in the building.
The firm but not overly condescending tone is refreshing to see.

Throughout the game it was clear to me that Billy wants to turn his extracurricular work as an instructor and youth coach into a full-time job, which is co-signed by Gil with a nod of the head.
"I've been fortunate enough during my basketball playing career to have some great coaches," says Billy. "Boeheim, [Oak Hill Academy's] Steve Smith and my coaches that coached me [growing up], I just try to take a little bit from each of them and add it in to my own experiences."
This upcoming season Billy will be helping out with the JV squad at Nottingham High School, hoping for it to serve as a "stepping stone" to bigger and better opportunities. I have a feeling it will.
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In addition to working with the next generation of prep players in upstate New York, there's plenty of guys already on-the-radar of top tiered Division I coaches that have been getting workouts in with Billy, most notably DaJuan Coleman. A consensus top 15 player of the class of 2012, Coleman will serve as the first soon-to-be household name that came out of Billy and Gil's program, a player who has narrowed down his college choices between Kentucky, Ohio State and Syracuse.
An even more fascinating revelation is that Billy's client list (non-paying in this case) also includes a number of current Syracuse players who routinely seek Billy out to play pick-up and work on their fundamentals. Scoop Jardine in particular has spent many hours this off-season with Billy working on becoming a better team facilitator. No word yet if Billy's unselfish philosophy of basketball has rubbed off on the quick-triggered ‘Cuse point guard.
When the day was over, my biggest takeaway was that we, well, at least everyone who knew of Billy Edelin between 2001-2005 but haven't heard from him since, were probably wrong. We were wrong about him as a person, and wrong to play the "What the Heck Ever Happened to Him" card when he came up in conversation. He needs to be removed from the undefined category of players with potential who allegedly made poor decisions and lost their way.
Despite disappearing from the eyes and minds of fans who likely have unfavorable perceptions and misjudgments about him, he's been front and center (adored actually) by a number of kids and young adults, offering hours of his free time to serve as a sort of evangelist on the game he loves, and give as many kids as he can the opportunity to excel in the game of basketball.
It was a very odd journey but I found Billy Edelin. He's doing just fine, and basketball is better for having it be taught by people like him.
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Wonderful stuff.
A real testament to the power of the network. Must have been a surreal experience.
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Great stuff
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Great Article.
Very refreshing and really good to hear. I will always have memories of Billy and the 2003 National Championship team. He was so strong fundamentally, so I am glad he is passing that on to future generations. Its inspired me to go caoch some youth basketball this season.
Awesome stuff
I was always a big fan of Billy’s. He played the game so effortlessly. In some ways, he was a throwback. Not the flashy, speedster PGs we so generally see today, but a player who used his size and smarts to somehow always end up getting layups. I was never quite sure how he got to the basket. It’s too bad things did not work out for him longer at SU – I do think he got a raw deal, almost entirely thanks to the NCAA. Good to see that he’s still tight with the Syracuse community though, including Coach Boeheim and current players.
He was huge for Cuse in the NCAA tournament in 2003:
Championship game: 12 pts, 3st, 2ast (3rd leading scorer on the team)
Cuse vs OK St: 20pts (8/12 FG), 4 reb, 2 ast (led the team in scoring on a night that Melo went 5/16 for 13 pts)
Cuse vs Manhattan: 15 pts (6/9 FG), 2ast, 2st
a point of contention
you insist that “He needs to be removed from the undefined category of players with potential who allegedly made poor decisions and lost their way.”
Why? The fact remains that he quit on his teammates, not once, but multiple times in his career, not the least of which was the unexplained absence from the trip to the NCAA tournament at Worcester, which many believe to be the cause of SU’s lackluster performance and subsequent shocking loss to Vermont.
I am glad to hear that he is picking up the pieces and moving on, but his career options will always be limited because of those choices. I followed him as much as most, I know he moved from Syracuse to Mountain State in West Virginia, but he quit there, too, and as far as I know, he never completed his degree. He will have a difficult time moving into coaching without a college degree, and even if he has (or gets) one, he will have an even more difficult time moving up unless he can explain – publicly and contritely – his multiple quits.
I hope the best for Billy, but hoping isn’t enough. He needs to hear these difficult questions, and answer them. Patting him on the back and pretending it never happened or no longer matter does him no favors. If you really care about Billy and his future, you should hold his feet to the fire.
…as if 19 yr old Billy Edelin was supposed to answer to you. you have no idea what happened between he and his teammates and his unexplained absence was most likely explained to the people who needed to know..i.e. not you or me or any of us.
As simply a pure SU hoops fan
I would have loved to see him play out his college years. He was so smooth and crafty. Awesome, old school point guard. That floater in the lane is a thing of the past.
he doesn’t have to answer to me – he has to answer to himself if he truly wants to move forward, and all of you soft hearted apologists make that very difficult for him to do.
You think you are doing him a favor, but you are not. His dream of being a head coach, even at the high school level, will be more difficult to reach the longer people like you allow him to avoid confronting his past.
Huh?
So, which is it? He has to explain – publicly and contritely – or he has to answer to himself???
Call me a soft-hearted apologist if you’d like, I’ve been called much, much worse.
Billy was part of something that I never thought I’d see. What happened to him after that is none of my business. Was I disappointed that he didn’t finish out his career? Sure. Do I lose sleep over it and demand that he explain his actions? No. It is his life, and he made mine much more complete because of what he did for my favorite team in my favorite sport.
Good luck to you Billy, and thank you again for the memories!!!!
I am glad to hear he is doing good.
I also wondered what had happened to him. To speak to some of his problems, I knew some kids around the university as well in the city of Syracuse that matter of fact stated he had a drug problem. The information may have been wrong, but the streets do and did talk. Regardless glad he is doing positive things and as a fan I am very happy listening and reading about his probable coaching career!
by cusetownstomp on Oct 10, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this says a lot about Billy and about JB
Billy has a job and a purpose in Syracuse. That says a lot. Both about him, SU, and the community. He gave us something and we gave back ( granted hard to say “we” when I don’t live in CNY anymore, but I’ll always think I do).
Its nice that JB sends his kids to the program. That says a lot about Edelin and what type of person he is, and about the loyalty of a coach ( “not 10 fucking games!”).
Some may also recall, and I don’t think I am mistaken, but I will put the video in here in a second, but when ‘Melo announced he was leaving early, one of JB’s kids was sitting with Billy during the press conference.
By the way, as an aside ....
Not to hijack a thread, but was that the best coach tirade ever? I mean it wasn’t over a bad call or something like that. He was defending a player, in NYC, at MSG, and he DROPPED THE F BOMB.
I agree.
That by far was the ultimate stand up for my guy tirade ever!
by cusetownstomp on Oct 11, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I checked the 'Orange Odyssey' video that celebrated the championship
I do believe that was JB’s son sitting on Edelin’s lap while Melo announced he was going pro. I JB for being a guy labeled as many different things ( many negative by the press) must be able to strike up some solid connections to his players. Even a one and done’r like Melo comes back to help out ( Durant building any practice facilites?) . Guys like Edelin ( and Pearl too ) have found they are not forgotten in the ’Cuse.
2003 National Champs
Billy you are a forgotten piece of that championship team. You were the reason i thought we had a chance to make some noise that season when you came back. You’re a true point guard and my favorite Cuse player of all time. Glad you’re still representing the community and thanks Nick for the great story.
Great piece Nick
and great job Billy. We’ll never know everything that happened during your time playing ball here, and I’m sorry it didn’t work out like I’m sure you’d planned, but its great to see that you have some peace and joy in your life still. Best of luck Billy, you’ll always be Orange to us.
Awesome
That’s really awesome, great read. He seems like a really good guy. I went to high school and played basketball at West Genesee – I didn’t know he coached a league there! is he still doing that? I’d like to get my younger brothers who now go to WG involved in it if he is, would love for them to get some great coaching by Edelin. I’m glad Billy is still involved in the community, I think he can have a tremendous positive impact on a lot of young players.


















